Mr. Jenner.

Did you notice whether there was a woman or man or men that brought him to the shop?

Mr. Shasteen.

I know what you're fixing to ask and I could kick my own self, but I didn't pay no attention to it.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall what type of automobile did you notice it at all?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes; I noticed the car. Now, I'll tell you the man's name that I know--I know it is in my estimation--it was in the 1958 bracket and as the old saying is, it didn't have the wings on it. This was the thing that I noticed.

Mr. Jenner.

But it wasn't the station wagon you have described?

Mr. Shasteen.

No; I think it was a 1958 Ford--them there old gun-colored, it was a dark color, but it wasn't black or nothing, and that's what let him out--the kid out in front.

Mr. Jenner.

But this was the occasion the boy made the remark, "There wouldn't be no peace until all the people had the same amount of possessions and that most of our trouble now is caused because the poor people have so little and the rich so much?"

Mr. Shasteen.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

And this boy indicated peace would come when all the people had the amount of--the same amount of wealth?

Mr. Shasteen.

And had one leader--he didn't say "ruler," he said "leader." We talked about that and noticed it after he left.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall making this statement to Agent Odum?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes. I have made it in my mind a dozen times since then--just thinking of a 14-year old boy having that kind of distilled stuff in his mind. It's not funny to me, it hurts me to see a kid with that kind of an attitude, because somebody is teaching him wrong and the thing that hurts me the most was the fact that I did have a chance to have took him and bought him a coke or took him and done something and talked to him and found out who he was and where I could have at least reasoned with him or turned him in where somebody--some of the authorities could have gotten ahold of him or anything, but it made me mad and I didn't do it. That's why we shouldn't let our tempers--you fellows are lawyers and you know that you can't let your temper get too far, but some of us people do let our tempers get away and that's one time I let mine get away. I would much rather have took him and whipped him with one of the belts or razor straps than took his money.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, I think of nothing else.
Do you have anything in mind to ask him, Mr. Davis?

Mr. Davis.

No, is this person still coming, have you seen him any more when is the last time you saw him at the shop?

Mr. Shasteen.

This boy--I never saw that boy since that day. Of course, I don't remember exactly, the exact words, you know, I was kind of angry and aggravated and then you say things, but I let him know that that was no way for anybody to feel and I told him he was just off--way off base, and I said, "I don't know where you got your learning and your thinking," but I said, "Boy, I dis agree with you whole-heartedly." And I said--I have a bad habit of telling people they had better take inventory and see if they are right, and I told him, I said, "You had better take inventory and find out where you stand because you are just at the right age that you can get in a lot of trouble thinking like that."

Mr. Jenner.

Did I ask you what your age was?

Mr. Shasteen.

No; 39.

Mr. Jenner.

And you are a married man and have a family?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

How old is Mr. Glover?

Mr. Shasteen.

32.

Mr. Jenner.

And your third barber?

Mr. Shasteen.

39.

Mr. Jenner.

That's all, and we appreciate your coming in.

Mr. Shasteen.

Well, I wish I could help you, but I know it doesn't help you a lot.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, you helped us by telling us everything you know.

Mr. Davis.

We surely do appreciate your coming in.