Mr. Rogers.

Well, maybe he did identify him, but I never saw this man. No. That's when this happened? Mr. Garner did, but I didn't. No, I--if he did come around, I wasn't there. If I did, I would tell you, you know.

Mr. Liebeler.

I show you a picture that has been marked "Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-A," and ask you if you recognize that man.

Mr. Rogers.

No. I seen plenty people, but I don't know him either. If I did, I would tell you.

Mr. Liebeler.

All right. Thank you very much, Mr. Rogers.

Mr. Rogers.

Under oath, I tell you just exactly what I tell you, the same thing. As far as the boy is concerned, you know, he never spoke to anybody. Go in and out, eat and clean. Didn't nobody knew his business.

Mr. Liebeler.

He kept pretty much to himself?

Mr. Rogers.

Yes.

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James Lehrer

Testimony of James Lehrer

The testimony of James Lehrer was taken at 10:45 a.m., on July 24, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Liebeler.

Will you please stand and take the oath? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Lehrer.

I do.

Mr. Liebeler.

My name is Wesley J. Liebeler. I am an attorney on the staff of the President's Commission investigating the assassination of President Kennedy. I have been authorized to take your testimony by the Commission pursuant to authority granted to it by President Johnson's Executive Order 11130, dated November 29, 1963, and joint resolution of Congress, No. 137. Under the Commission's rules governing the taking of testimony, you are entitled to 3 days' notice and to have an attorney here if you want to, and you are entitled to the usual privileges and rights concerning self incrimination and that sort of thing as far as answering my questions are concerned. I know that you have not had 3 days' notice of this, but I understand that you are here voluntarily and that you are prepared to proceed without an attorney; is that correct?

Mr. Lehrer.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Please state your name.

Mr. Lehrer.

James Lehrer [spelling], L-e-h-r-e-r.

Mr. Liebeler.

When and where were you born?

Mr. Lehrer.

May 19, 1934, Wichita, Kans.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where do you live?

Mr. Lehrer.

Dallas; 3709 West Beverly.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you outline your educational background for us, please?

Mr. Lehrer.

High school, graduate of Victoria College, University of Missouri.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did you major in at the university?

Mr. Lehrer.

Journalism.

Mr. Liebeler.

Are you presently employed by the Dallas Times Herald?

Mr. Lehrer.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

How long have you worked with them?

Mr. Lehrer.

Nearly 3 years.

Mr. Liebeler.

What is your job over there?

Mr. Lehrer.

I am a reporter.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you cover a specific beat?

Mr. Lehrer.

I cover the Federal boat, labor, and politics some politics.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did you do before you went to work with the Dallas Times Herald?