I was informed by Mr. Dann at that time that it was his intention to immediately contact the Warren Commission in Washington and file a criminal case, a case of assault and battery, against all parties conducting this hearing, including myself and Mr. Tonahill. At this point I was summarily fired, together with Mr. Tonahill, and I feel that this matter of course is something that Mr. Dann is not aware of, that all of this that has taken place here today--I think that we have tried to protect the rights of Jack Ruby, and I put this in to merely show that the call was made, and if any of you gentlemen have fear of reprisal or for whatever purpose it might be, and that I am sure that something further will be made of it.
Again, I wish to state this that in my opinion, whether we are still employed in the case, and I have not been fired by Jack Ruby, that we feel absolutely that his rights have been protected.

Mr. Alexander.

His brother Earl has not fired you either.

Mr. Specter.

That concludes the proceedings. Thank you all very much.

Mr. Alexander.

Just one more thing.
I myself will make no statement to anybody outside this room about anything, and let me make the suggestion that whatever statement is made, is made by Mr. Specter, if you want to agree on that.

Mr. Tonahill.

In fact I think that if Mr. Specter is going to give this statement, that if he tells them that a polygraph has been taken, I don't think any of the questions and answers should be given out.

Mr. Fowler.

No; I very definitely and specifically request that these. matters that have been gone into here today be for the Commission and the Commission only. It is our wish.

Mr. Specter.

That will be done. The Commission heretofore has made no public statement of content to any extent. It has been the practice of the Commission to announce only what witnesses have been heard, and a very general statement of the witness' status. In fact, Mr. Ruby was insistent that there be a statement made in terms of his request and his cooperation, and that had been discussed before as being the appropriate limit of such a statement. It's my view that that should be followed up on, but no details of any sort stated as to his responses or anything else that transpired in this proceeding today.

Mr. Tonahill.

Yes; that he cooperated to the best of his ability.
Dr. BEAVERS. Any questions that are asked me, I will refer to Mr. Arlen Specter.

Mr. Specter.

Very fine, Dr. Beavers.
Thank you very much. This will conclude these proceedings.
Proceedings concluded at 10 p.m.

Bell P. Herndon

Testimony of Bell P. Herndon

The testimony of Bell P. Herndon was taken at 2:05 p.m., on July 28, 1964, at 200 Maryland Avenue NE., Washington, D.C., by Mr. Arlen Specter, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Specter.

May the record show that this is a deposition proceeding of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy.
Present today is Mr. Bell P. Herndon, a special agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who has been asked to testify concerning the results of the polygraph examination administered to Jack Ruby in Dallas, Tex., on July 18, 1964.
With that preliminary statement of purpose, would you rise, please, Mr. Herndon, and raise your right hand?
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you shall give in this deposition proceeding before the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Herndon.

I do.