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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 387« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Abraham Kleinman)

Mr. Griffin.
What did you do when you saw Jack?
Mr. Kleinman.
Well, I didn't do anything. I said hello to him. He was showing them some pictures that he either made or he took off of a signpost somewhere regarding somebody that put them on there. I think the sign was supposed to read, or did read--I didn't take a good look at it--to impeach Warren. And, of course, I hadn't heard anything about it, and I didn't even know where he.got it.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you hear Jack say anything about those pictures?
Mr. Kleinman.
Well, I don't remember what he said, but he seemed to be upset about the pictures. I don't know what their conversation was before I came in.
Mr. Griffin.
What was the conversation after you came in?
Mr. Kleinman.
Well, I don't think there was anything except, you know, he mentioned about those pictures on the Warren impeachment, and then they were looking at an advertisement out of the News. Someone had a full page advertisement about President Kennedy, I think it was.
Mr. Griffin.
Did Jack indicate whether or not he knew who Mr. Warren was?
Mr. Kleinman.
No; he didn't. Well, I imagine he knew that he was a Chief Justice.
Mr. Griffin.
Why was he upset about the photograph?
Mr. Kleinman.
That I don't know.
Mr. Griffin.
How long did you stand there?
Mr. Kleinman.
I beg your pardon?
Mr. Griffin.
How long did you stand there at that conversation?
Mr. Kleinman.
I don't know how long I did stay in there.
Mr. Griffin.
How long were you present during the conversation?
Mr. Kleinman.
I don't think I was there over 2 or 3 minutes, because I went back in the back to try to get the payroll out.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you know Ralph Paul?
Mr. Kleinman.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
How long have you known Ralph Paul?
Mr. Kleinman.
Oh, Just a very short time. Jack introduced me to him up at the club, and, of course, I knew the name from the records that I was working on, but I don't know him very well.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you have occasion to see Ralph Paul at any time the weekend the President was shot?
Mr. Kleinman.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you have occasion to see any friends or employees of Jack Ruby on that weekend?
Mr. Kleinman.
No, sir. I believe he closed the place up on Friday.
Mr. Griffin.
I am going to mark for the purpose of identification a document which is an interview report prepared by two FBI agents, Lansing P. Logan, and Alton E. Bramblett. I am going to mark this document "Abraham Kleinman, Deposition July 24, 1964, Exhibit No. 1." This report consists of 3 pages that are numbered consecutively, 317, 318, and 319. The report pertains to an interview which Logan and Bramblett had with you on December 7, 1963. I will ask you to look at that and read it and tell me if it is an accurate report of the conversation they had with you on that day.
Mr. Kleinman.
No; its got one mistake here. It says certified. I am not certified. I am a registered public accountant. This 59 here, I think I may have said 59, but it is about--I am 61 last December- -about 58 years here.
Mr. Griffin.
What does that Pertain to? What does the year 1953 refer to?
Mr. Kleinman.
It don't say. It just says 59 years here in the Dallas area. That is close enough. That is about right.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you have any additions or corrections that you think should be in this?
Mr. Kleinman.
Well, I don't think I know of any. I don't recall any.
Mr. Griffin.
Well, let me ask you then if you will sign your name on the first page and initial the next 2 pages.
Mr. Kleinman.
Mr. Griffin.
Just any place that is conspicuous. Thank you very much.
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