Mr. Rackley.

over the place, well then I told him I thought that something had happened over there.
I wasn't expecting anything like that until I just, of course, seen the policemen all out there running back. They came out the back door and the side door with guns.
Mr. BELIN. Who did you tell that to that you thought something happened there?

Mr. Rackley.

Gail George.

Mr. Belin.

Is that your foreman?

Mr. Rackley.

Yes.
Mr. BELIN. After you said you kept your eyes on this looking south for 5 or 10 minutes, what did you do after that?

Mr. Rackley.

Well, I went back to the office.

Mr. Belin.

Then what did you do after that?

Mr. Rackley.

Well, I don't remember.
Mr. BELIN. During this period of 5 or 10 minutes, did you walk close to the building at all, or just stand there?

Mr. Rackley.

Just stood out there.

Mr. Belin.

What about Romack? Did he stand with you, or did he walk closer?

Mr. Rackley.

He walked closer.
Mr. BELIN. Anything else you can think of, whether I have asked it or not, that in any way might be relevant to this inquiry?
Mr. RACKLEY. It wasn't a thing that I knew. I didn't really know or expect what was taking place.

Mr. Belin.

Other than the pigeons?

Mr. Rackley.

Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Sir, we thank you for your cooperation. You have a right, if you want, to come hack down and read your testimony and sign it, or you can just waive doing that and have the court reporter send it directly to us without
your taking another trip down here. You can do it either way.

Mr. Rackley.

I can sign it now.

Mr. BELIN. You can either waive signing it or else you can come down again and read it and sign it. By waiving, I mean you just let it go, assuming that the court reporter will accurately transcribe it, or you have a right to come in and read it.

Mr. Rackley.

I will just let it go.

Mr. Belin.

You waive signing it?

Testimony of James Elbert Romack

Mr. Rackley.

Yes.
Mr. BELIN. That is all for now.
James Elbert Romack
TESTIMONY OF JAMES ELBERT ROMACK

Mr. Rackley.

The testimony of James Elbert Romack was taken at 11:30 a.m., on April 8, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. David W. Belin, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Belin.

You want to stand and raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Romack.

I do.
Mr. BELIN. My name is David Belin. I am actually a practicing attorney from Des Moines, Iowa. I have been with the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy for several months here, and we asked you to come down to have your deposition taken.

Mr. Belin.

Would you please state your name for the record?

Mr. Romack.

James Elbert Romack.

Mr. Belin.

R-o-m-a-c-k?