Mr. Specter.

Had she ever been to Texas prior to November 21, 1963?
Mr. O'DONNELL. Not to my recollection.

Mr. Specter.

After the assassination, has she ever made any comment to you about that conversation which you had in the Hotel Texas in Fort Worth on the morning of November 22?
Mr. O'DONNELL. I have never dared bring that conversation up to Mrs. Kennedy.

Mr. Specter.

Mr. O'Donnell, do you have any knowledge, aside from the factors which you have set forth during your testimony today, concerning anyone involved in the shooting of the President?
Mr. O'DONNELL. No; I have no comment.

Mr. Specter.

You say you have no knowledge?
Mr. O'DONNELL. I have no knowledge.

Mr. Specter.

Do you have anything to add which you think would be helpful to the President's Commission in any way in its job of investigating all factors relating to the assassination of President Kennedy?
Mr. O'DONNELL. I do not.

Mr. Specter.

One other detail, Mr. O'Donnell.
Did you have occasion to deal with any particular individuals from the city of Dallas itself during this trip, or in preparation for this trip?
Mr. O'DONNELL. No.

Mr. Specter.

Mr. O'Donnell, under our practice, if you care to, we can make this transcript available to you to read and to sign.
Would you prefer that, or would you just as soon waive the signature, and have the transcript in its final form as it comes from the court reporter here?
Mr. O'DONNELL. I would like to read it.

Mr. Specter.

Fine. We will make it available to you for reading and signature, sir. Thank you very much.

Lawrence F. O'Brien

Testimony of Lawrence F. O'brien

The testimony of Lawrence F. O'Brien was taken at 11 a.m., on May 26, 1964, at the White House Office, Washington, D.C., by Mr. Francis W. H. Adams, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Adams.

Raise your right hand, please.
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you shall give in this deposition proceeding before the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Mr. O'BRIEN. I do.

Mr. Adams.

Mr. O'Brien, the purpose of this deposition is to get from you your knowledge of the facts surrounding the assassination of President Kennedy on November 22, 1963.
I would like to start way back, if I may, at the point of the conception of the trip, the origin of the trip. How far back was that before November 22?
Mr. O'BRIEN. My recollection is the contemplation of the trip to Texas was back some, perhaps, months before the actual trip.
However, I should quickly add that many discussions took place about potential trips to all parts of the country at some future time, to some degree in the political context. The President, No. 1, enjoyed getting out to meet the people; and, secondly, over a period of time we had anticipated the President would travel rather extensively when the opportunity presented itself. But the difficulty in pinning anything like that down specifically in advance is the obvious difficulty of scheduling any travel by the President, because of the duties of the office and the obvious day to day changes in the problem.

Mr. Adams.

But you, yourself, were concerned and involved in discussions looking towards this?
Mr. O'BRIEN. Yes; Mr. O'Donnell was responsible for the handling of the specifics